🖤 ateez compatibilities (+ seongjoong)
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9ofcupsgeneral note-taking on ateez synastries with an added mini-analysis on seongjoong
will list out most/least compatible members for each atz boy but keep in mind that this is from a one-sided perspective. i.e. just because x is good for y doesn't mean y is good for x, if that makes sense
🍓 hongjoong:
most compatible with yunho, seonghwa and jongho
least compatible with yeosang
🐰 seonghwa:
most compatible with yunho and hongjoong
least compatible with no one
🐶 yunho:
most compatible with seonghwa, mingi, jongho and hongjoong
least compatible with wooyoung
strange dynamic to take note of: yeosang
🐱 yeosang:
most compatible with wooyoung and san
least compatible with hongjoong and jongho
🏔 san:
most compatible with yeosang and yunho
least compatible with mingi
🦁 mingi:
most compatible with seonghwa and yunho
least compatible with san
🦊 wooyoung:
most compatible with yeosang and jongho
least compatible with yunho
🐻 jongho:
most compatible with yunho, hongjoong and wooyoung
least compatible with yeosang
these are my opinions as an astrologer under the belief that squares can be beneficial to a relationship but only in specific cases lol. anyway i'm going to break down the biggest ateez ship (seongjoong) and how compatible they actually are
seongjoong 🐰🍓
they are compatible but in what might be considered an unconventional way. at first glance the pair-up of gemini/cancer moon may seem negative but in reality gemini's more mercurial tendencies to talk and expand upon beliefs can positively impact cancer's lunar tendencies to hold negative emotions in. other things to take note of
breaking down each point:
1. seonghwa's 8H aquarius venus is part of what makes him an intense caretaker of others on top of his cancer moon and rising. he considers those close to him as people who should understand him at his core and vice versa but is chronically afraid of showing that deep sense of self due to a 12H cancer moon square 4H libra lilith. he has a submissive-seeming nature to him that goes hand in hand with his natural intensity and passion, and this matches hongjoong's want for someone docile but willing to protect him anyway.
in hongjoong's 7H of long-term partnerships and marriage, seonghwa provides himself as someone "different" due to his aquarius venus representing a disturbance in the norm; he simply just loves hongjoong in a different way than most people, which speaks directly towards hongjoong's leo rising at the aquarius degree (28º).
2. the 3H is the house of communication and expression, and as i mentioned in my post for hongjoong's chart he's someone who wants to express his growth and change constantly. in seonghwa's 5H of love, romance, sex and creative pursuits, this manifests as hongjoong wanting to express how much his love is growing/has grown to seonghwa constantly, but through creative means (think the song he wrote for seonghwa).
because his sun is also in seonghwa's 5H, hongjoong feels he gets something out of caring for him. instead of feelings of selflessness he understands that seonghwa takes care of him just as much, if not more, than he takes care of seonghwa. and to him that's okay as long as the dynamic is overall balanced.
3. this one could take forever to explain so i'll try to keep it short. firstly, seonghwa's sun is in hongjoong's 8H of trauma, death, grief and debts as well as the occult. his mercury, mars, saturn and ceres are all in his 9H of travel, philosophy, education and religion. a sun in 8H overlay is sort of intense because the planet person (seonghwa) feels naturally obligated towards the house person (hongjoong).
seonghwa may feel pulled in by hongjoong; he may find him mysterious and alluring even if hongjoong isn't doing anything. his instinctive urge is to be by him at all times and he may feel naturally protective over hongjoong. in turn, hongjoong may have felt uncomfortable by seonghwa's attention on him at first, which is normal with 8H overlays; they're so intense that they end up becoming incredibly hit-or-miss/love or hate, as is the general intensity associated with scorpio and pluto/mars.
however the 9H overlays soften things up. seonghwa is naturally a child at heart with his playful aries placements and pure of heart cancer moon intensify themselves in hongjoong's 9th and 11th houses (11H = friendship and networking). this is where hongjoong's naturally protective urge comes from due to the sextiles to his gemini moon.
gemini = mercury and aries = mars, so they likely bicker as a means of showing affection. it isn't easy for hongjoong in particular to be verbal about his love for people, so seonghwa likely had to adjust to his needs. seonghwa likely learned to read between the lines fairly quickly, and his cancer moon in hongjoong's 11H ensures that he will, for the most part, always know where he stands with hongjoong.
4. as i've mentioned before the north node is inherently karmic and deals with our life purpose, but it also is an incredibly reactive placement that intensifies anything it comes into contact with. for example, hongjoong's node right on top of his own rising emphasizes his bold and straightforward personality.
seonghwa and hongjoong's north nodes don't come into contact with each other, but both are in hongjoong's 1H of the self and the self only. combine this with seonghwa's service-oriented aries sun/mercury/mars and cancer moon/rising, and we get someone who constantly feels naturally inclined to help someone else. it's less a feeling of being indebted and more a feeling of caring about someone so much you'd be willing to do anything for them with the knowledge that they're working as hard as they can to make sure you're okay, too.
hongjoong may deal with feelings of beng smothered by seonghwa even if seonghwa doesn't intend to do so. seonghwa's 12th house cancer moon finds a place, a home, in hongjoong, and with it finds a purpose (node) to help whenever possible. this may lead to a situation of codependency on hongjoong's end. he may feel like he needs seonghwa around to feel safe. seonghwa may feel exhausted by hongjoong's presence after spending long periods of time with him (8H overlays). if they haven't already, they should work to find a balance between them that allows for mutual distance if need be. both are introverted feeling types who need their own space, as close as they are with each other.
5. in general i'd like to note that seonghwa's chiron is right next to hongjoong's sun/venus and is on top of his IC line which i find incredibly interesting. this is actually what balances their dynamic out, in my opinion. chiron is our wounded healer aka point of trauma and the IC line is what starts the 4th house; it's the lowest part of a person's birth chart and represents them at their most personal level. in this case it represents hongjoong
seonghwa's 5H chiron may mean he struggles to understand relationships fundamentally. he may suffer with feelings of abandonment, and inconsistency within his relationships frightens him. pursuing a career in the creative arts (and this includes being an idol) may be particularly difficult for him due to what he feels are random roadblocks along the way. hongjoong's 4th house and sun/venus soothe these wounds just by his presence alone. his own mars ruled sun and venus inspire seonghwa; he understands his pain and doesn't allow him to wallow in it.
furthermore, the IC/4th house represents our personal paths in life. someone who has a 4th house north node, for example, should strive their whole life to create a personal path separate from outside influences. so seonghwa's chiron on top of hongjoong's IC line is actually quite beneficial; hongjoong may have felt stifled at first, but seonghwa's continued selflessness charms him.
and, the most important part of their synastry is here: hongjoong is just as willing to help seonghwa heal as seonghwa is in helping hongjoong. this isn't an unbalanced dynamic due to seonghwa's tendency to give himself away to people he gets attached to; it's balanced precisely because of this. hongjoong is perceptive, and their healthy aspects maintain the ideal relationship for the both of them in making sure they don't overwork themselves for others. all in all, the ideal synastry for a leader and his right hand man.
general compatibility
will list out most/least compatible members for each atz boy but keep in mind that this is from a one-sided perspective. i.e. just because x is good for y doesn't mean y is good for x, if that makes sense
🍓 hongjoong:
most compatible with yunho, seonghwa and jongho
least compatible with yeosang
🐰 seonghwa:
most compatible with yunho and hongjoong
least compatible with no one
🐶 yunho:
most compatible with seonghwa, mingi, jongho and hongjoong
least compatible with wooyoung
strange dynamic to take note of: yeosang
🐱 yeosang:
most compatible with wooyoung and san
least compatible with hongjoong and jongho
🏔 san:
most compatible with yeosang and yunho
least compatible with mingi
🦁 mingi:
most compatible with seonghwa and yunho
least compatible with san
🦊 wooyoung:
most compatible with yeosang and jongho
least compatible with yunho
🐻 jongho:
most compatible with yunho, hongjoong and wooyoung
least compatible with yeosang
these are my opinions as an astrologer under the belief that squares can be beneficial to a relationship but only in specific cases lol. anyway i'm going to break down the biggest ateez ship (seongjoong) and how compatible they actually are
seongjoong 🐰🍓
tldr: mutual healing
they are compatible but in what might be considered an unconventional way. at first glance the pair-up of gemini/cancer moon may seem negative but in reality gemini's more mercurial tendencies to talk and expand upon beliefs can positively impact cancer's lunar tendencies to hold negative emotions in. other things to take note of
- seonghwa's 8H aquarius venus is in hongjoong's 7H
- hongjoong's 3H scorpio venus is in seonghwa's 5H
- hongjoong's 11H gemini moon sextiles all of seonghwa's natal 10H aries placements (sun, mercury, mars, saturn and ceres) in hongjoong's 8/9H
- seonghwa's 3H north node is in hongjoong's 1H
- seonghwa's 5H chiron is right on top of hongjoong's IC line and conjunct his scorpio 3H sun and venus
breaking down each point:
1. seonghwa's 8H aquarius venus is part of what makes him an intense caretaker of others on top of his cancer moon and rising. he considers those close to him as people who should understand him at his core and vice versa but is chronically afraid of showing that deep sense of self due to a 12H cancer moon square 4H libra lilith. he has a submissive-seeming nature to him that goes hand in hand with his natural intensity and passion, and this matches hongjoong's want for someone docile but willing to protect him anyway.
in hongjoong's 7H of long-term partnerships and marriage, seonghwa provides himself as someone "different" due to his aquarius venus representing a disturbance in the norm; he simply just loves hongjoong in a different way than most people, which speaks directly towards hongjoong's leo rising at the aquarius degree (28º).
2. the 3H is the house of communication and expression, and as i mentioned in my post for hongjoong's chart he's someone who wants to express his growth and change constantly. in seonghwa's 5H of love, romance, sex and creative pursuits, this manifests as hongjoong wanting to express how much his love is growing/has grown to seonghwa constantly, but through creative means (think the song he wrote for seonghwa).
because his sun is also in seonghwa's 5H, hongjoong feels he gets something out of caring for him. instead of feelings of selflessness he understands that seonghwa takes care of him just as much, if not more, than he takes care of seonghwa. and to him that's okay as long as the dynamic is overall balanced.
3. this one could take forever to explain so i'll try to keep it short. firstly, seonghwa's sun is in hongjoong's 8H of trauma, death, grief and debts as well as the occult. his mercury, mars, saturn and ceres are all in his 9H of travel, philosophy, education and religion. a sun in 8H overlay is sort of intense because the planet person (seonghwa) feels naturally obligated towards the house person (hongjoong).
seonghwa may feel pulled in by hongjoong; he may find him mysterious and alluring even if hongjoong isn't doing anything. his instinctive urge is to be by him at all times and he may feel naturally protective over hongjoong. in turn, hongjoong may have felt uncomfortable by seonghwa's attention on him at first, which is normal with 8H overlays; they're so intense that they end up becoming incredibly hit-or-miss/love or hate, as is the general intensity associated with scorpio and pluto/mars.
however the 9H overlays soften things up. seonghwa is naturally a child at heart with his playful aries placements and pure of heart cancer moon intensify themselves in hongjoong's 9th and 11th houses (11H = friendship and networking). this is where hongjoong's naturally protective urge comes from due to the sextiles to his gemini moon.
gemini = mercury and aries = mars, so they likely bicker as a means of showing affection. it isn't easy for hongjoong in particular to be verbal about his love for people, so seonghwa likely had to adjust to his needs. seonghwa likely learned to read between the lines fairly quickly, and his cancer moon in hongjoong's 11H ensures that he will, for the most part, always know where he stands with hongjoong.
4. as i've mentioned before the north node is inherently karmic and deals with our life purpose, but it also is an incredibly reactive placement that intensifies anything it comes into contact with. for example, hongjoong's node right on top of his own rising emphasizes his bold and straightforward personality.
seonghwa and hongjoong's north nodes don't come into contact with each other, but both are in hongjoong's 1H of the self and the self only. combine this with seonghwa's service-oriented aries sun/mercury/mars and cancer moon/rising, and we get someone who constantly feels naturally inclined to help someone else. it's less a feeling of being indebted and more a feeling of caring about someone so much you'd be willing to do anything for them with the knowledge that they're working as hard as they can to make sure you're okay, too.
hongjoong may deal with feelings of beng smothered by seonghwa even if seonghwa doesn't intend to do so. seonghwa's 12th house cancer moon finds a place, a home, in hongjoong, and with it finds a purpose (node) to help whenever possible. this may lead to a situation of codependency on hongjoong's end. he may feel like he needs seonghwa around to feel safe. seonghwa may feel exhausted by hongjoong's presence after spending long periods of time with him (8H overlays). if they haven't already, they should work to find a balance between them that allows for mutual distance if need be. both are introverted feeling types who need their own space, as close as they are with each other.
5. in general i'd like to note that seonghwa's chiron is right next to hongjoong's sun/venus and is on top of his IC line which i find incredibly interesting. this is actually what balances their dynamic out, in my opinion. chiron is our wounded healer aka point of trauma and the IC line is what starts the 4th house; it's the lowest part of a person's birth chart and represents them at their most personal level. in this case it represents hongjoong
seonghwa's 5H chiron may mean he struggles to understand relationships fundamentally. he may suffer with feelings of abandonment, and inconsistency within his relationships frightens him. pursuing a career in the creative arts (and this includes being an idol) may be particularly difficult for him due to what he feels are random roadblocks along the way. hongjoong's 4th house and sun/venus soothe these wounds just by his presence alone. his own mars ruled sun and venus inspire seonghwa; he understands his pain and doesn't allow him to wallow in it.
furthermore, the IC/4th house represents our personal paths in life. someone who has a 4th house north node, for example, should strive their whole life to create a personal path separate from outside influences. so seonghwa's chiron on top of hongjoong's IC line is actually quite beneficial; hongjoong may have felt stifled at first, but seonghwa's continued selflessness charms him.
and, the most important part of their synastry is here: hongjoong is just as willing to help seonghwa heal as seonghwa is in helping hongjoong. this isn't an unbalanced dynamic due to seonghwa's tendency to give himself away to people he gets attached to; it's balanced precisely because of this. hongjoong is perceptive, and their healthy aspects maintain the ideal relationship for the both of them in making sure they don't overwork themselves for others. all in all, the ideal synastry for a leader and his right hand man.
